My question is is there a way I can tell how much damage is done without tearing down the house? They are equally effective. Bear in mind that the two products actually contain the exact same active ingredient, the major difference is how they are spread and distributed in the soil. That is enough to soak down to the footer of the house. Dang, I keep finding false info the more I read. Getting a system that involved Termidor and bait stations would be a great treatment as well. Yet, they need to pay their overhead year round, so they need to price a little higher. Thank you for your time and please remember that I am a completely disinterested party and Im just trying to help you poor confused homeowners realize that the product my company sells is clearly (though neither provably nor guaranteed to be) superior to all others in every way. My professional opinion is that you can never be too cautious with your largest investment. The extent of my knowledge in treating termite infestations is limited to my meeting with our initial pest inspector and reading these comments. Sentricon is not effective and a waist of money. im from the philippines. Find a long standing company that will stand behind their work and products. Orange oil has a shorter life and lasts only for a few days after application. Most termite companies offer baiting systems, whether it is Sentricon or Advance. Why are you so against Orkin? Also they only show up a couple times during the year. Also Termidor will solve your problem in months not years and as for above ground baits ,,,, they have a high failure rate .. Once termites start eating the bait, they spread it to all the other termites in the colony and they literally wipe themselves out of existence. I have to say in my experience the sentricon system doesnt even come close to the termidor barrier system. To all of my friends here. Lawn & Garden , Pre Emergent Herbicides (Weed Preventers), Shop Call Toll Free 1-855-55-EPEST (37378) Then this week I must have a backhoe dig out my water supply line to replace it no chance to plan as dealing with rupture of a line under severe drought conditions. I just looked back wondering where I bad-mouthed any company, and found none. Im inclined to go with TermidorDry & bait from the locally referenced applicator, but he candidly says that he would much prefer to do perimeter Termidor as his bait applications have been less successful. But Sentricon is just as effective. It is safe for pets, plants and humans. While this method is preferred for its non-toxicity, safety and environment friendliness, there are questions about its effectiveness. Should I be? That garage would only be about $400 $500 to treat which will kill the colonies feeding on the garage so they will never get to your home..Stay away from Orkin, find a good locally owned company. There is labor and material and expertise involved in each Sentricon Installation. They said renewals in my area are $350. It controls the infestation totally in three months. (manly because the pricing for the sentricon quarterly visits keeps going up) The company that would use the Termidor came out to give me an estimate and indicated that I had termite damage on my privacy fence that surrounds the back yard, as well as live termites 50 feet from the house in some wood debris. It is an approved, most used, and fully efficient product that professionals use in post and pre-construction. Anthony- Yes, I think sites like domyownpestcontrol are legit. Thus, chemical treatment is a more viable alternative. Such excavation is not a highly unusual event for the typical homeowner. I always see basements with a few cinderblocks that are darker due to moisture penetration or even crusty from water pushing salts in the concrete through. I honestly didnt know any Orkin branches were using Advance, thats good. As strange as it may sound, I think I would feel better about spending the money if we knew we had termites currently feeding on the house. I dont belong to the state or national pest assoc..They seem to be controled by the 2 biggest contributers , that being Orkin and Terminix. I am a keyman for Terminix which means i can sell and do my own jobs and this is how i do it Termidor is expensive but it does not cost that much to treat critical areas.. Its a small bit of extra care that the company really never misses in chemical costs.. What I meant to say was that I never had a call back for termites at any home treated with termidor. The only way I would do more than bi-monthly is if they are pre-baited.. Fumigations are recommended for homes with widespread infestations and/or where you have termites extending into inaccessible areas. Currently, it is Dupont for Altiset. They will not all feast on the bait station, as some will tunnel right past it. I have an active termite infestation in Maryland (have seen swarms emerge inside and outside of house near front stoop for a few years. Termite Guys Brisbanes biggest purpose is to ensure you as a homeowner the absolutely safest protection of your home. !The studies are out there.. My dilemma is the fact that the pipes to the pool go througha lush garden area. The amount of foaming agent depends on the hardness of the water, so experiment to find that perfect ratio to get a shaving cream consistency foam. I uncovered 6-7 ft of pipes but I am unable to uncover the other 9 feet because they greatly drop down below the ground and under a 4ft Versa-Lock wall. They work great! 66 of 69 people found this answer helpful. Lawn & Garden , Pre Emergent Herbicides (Weed Preventers), Shop Ive decided to use a bait system. If the areas of concern are accessible for inspection and treatment, a local treatment with Altriset may be all you need. That keeps the increased breeding that often happens when many termites are killed from happening. shared with Dow via computer from the company that installed the system. This new technology has proven to move 2.5 times further in the soil than the industry standard. Would I be taking too great a risk to just get the 4-year warranty? Chemical manufacturers changed their labels (directions for use) to specify that very low pressure of around 25 PSI was to be used in liquid termiticide applications. Shallower minimum treatment depths provide additional time and chemical savings on structures with deep footers. All the while they send $millions every year to U of Florida to continue research and hide findings. I keep getting told that they must go back to the soil and in that case they should be dying out?? (old exit holes in a ceiling tile on one end of house only) The company also wants to put the liquid Termidor inside in the bathtub drain traps, they said it would stay there for 20 years. I can tell you from a lot of experience that Termidor control rates are around 99% and Sentricon is around 98%. As for baits Sentricon / Shatter , Advance and Ensysex are all proven baits . The termiticide is The first unqualified treatment was done by the sellers. Termidor HE offers you as a customer a premium service. The way Termidor HE works is different to Termidor SC because the carrier molecule, which takes the active ingredient Fipronil with it, spreads in a different way through the soil. And do these estimates sound typical for 2012. The exterior should be enough, but you might want to have a bath trap installed if there are any bath tubs in your basement. WebAltriset is also proven to last longer than other termiticides, sometimes as much as twice as long. I did pest control for a little while after college, and we used Advance bait stations. Im done with them. Where other chemical barriers will weaken in a matter of months, Altriset will continue to protect your home from termites. 1) Sentricon IS a green product. Both Terminix and Arrow discovered active termites in the garage. I didn\\\t see the insects anymore until a few days ago. Use "Spacebar" or "Enter" to expand the My Account navigation menu. I do not advise using this type of bait. Advance has none that I know of. The foremost expert on Termites in the United States is Dr. Nan-Yau Su, Professor of Entomology for the University of Florida. It works by paralyzing the mouths of termites within hours of exposure, stopping further damage immediately. I have used them All. to add, my house is on wetlands, mostly in the back yard and the soil around here seems to contain a decent amount of clay. It will cost you more in the long run than a full treatment will. For more unbiased info, go to http://tiny.cc/9eu3fw, Our old floorboards started lifting so we decided to replace them. When should it be applied again? It seems to have less complaints online than the bait stations as well. It just costs the consumer more to pay for your unnecessary visits. These companies that sell termite baiting stations are not honest companies at all. Use Termidor or Premise. $270 per year? Altriset is non-repellent to the termites and also very safe for the environment, probably the safest of all currently available termiticides. I have active termites in my Maryland Home.I live within 100 of the water and also have a well 20 from the house. Sometimes it is worth it to spend a little extra a use a company you know is going to do the job properly. The termiticide is While the Oster T Finisher specializes with its precision, the Andis T Outliner specializes by providing pure power. At what point could humans, pets, bees come in contact with the applied product? Easy on the environment. In short stay away from Orkin and FMC Frontline baits. Termite baiting systems are becoming a less invasive alternative to conventional barrier methods of treatment. WebAltriset is a highly effective termite control product that stops the termites from feeding within hours of application. Period! we have noticed the swarmer termites in a couple areas of the home (no more than 15 bugs) I had the terminex guy out today, and he recommended treating with termidor. Jay talked about that house that took 4 months to get a hit and one year to control the termites you need something faster than that. These termiticides do not work like a repellent, there can be MINIMAL superficial damage to an area before the termites die off and any company who issues you a damage/repair warranty should be scrunitized. With these details, do you think it would be okay to just use Sentricon (with an extra station in the swarm area and both hot baited) and not spot treat with Termidor? For safety reasons. Does that really mean you can let it sit for a year? What do you think of the Terminx program, where they come out yearly and inspect but unless termites are found within 5ft of the house they do not treat. Jim, DuPonts Arilon is NOT a new product. @ Kim ,, Termidor lasts a solid 7 and up to 15 years . You can try to change them all you want, but your pettiness and skewed numbers are very easy to see through. This forum discussion has been very valuable so I thank all of you who have shared your insights and experience with me. Was this answer helpful to you? For $99/year, they would sell us a 10-year warranty with annual inspection. To you homeowners: Dont trust anyone that tries to sell you one of these systems. WebHere are the 5 best termite killers available on the market right now: Taurus SC: Most Popular Bifen XTS : Best Fast-acting Spectracide Terminate: Best Bait Termidor Foam: Best Direct Chemical Treatment BioAdvanced Termite Killer: Best for DIY Best Overall 5/5 Request Inspection 866-569-4035 Save $50 on a recurring pest control plan today! I only hope that everyone else who stumbles upon this page and its comments reads all the way to the end. They did ask my choice for sentricon or liquid and I chose sentricon in year 2013 A big mistake or am I ok? Most pest control companies use bait technology these days. Our new house is on a crawl space, so you can readily access the foundation (inside and out). I consider my home of average size, 1,600 sq feet. would emit pheromones that would chase the colony next door. If you are dealing with Formosan Termites, the carton nest will have to be found and removed usually a direct application of termiticide will take care of the problem. If termites pop-up elsewhere in your home, they will locally use chemical again. That means termites cannot see, smell, taste, or avoid it. 23.4 hPa ( 20 C) Information applies to the solvent. I have worked with Chlordane, Aldrin, Dursban TC, and many others, as well as Sentricon and Termidor. I appreciate the conversations here; I hope someone responds to my termite dilemma. I assume if I went Sentricon, I could not monitor it myself because I would not be able to by refills? Altriset is very similar to Termidor and is a new termiticide with lesser toxicity. I like the fact that the active ingredient in Sentricon is a chiton inhibitor whereas Termidor uses a nerve agent. Thanks for your help! If somebody does a conventional style treatment with Termidor, there is no reason not to put a ten year guarantee on it, unless of course the house has some rare and conducive condition that can not be fixed. Talstar Professional, Prelude Termiticide / Insecticide andBifen are examples of repellent chemicals. I like the idea of a 2 part monitoring system. Most termiticide labels have specific instructions on how to perform treatments along foundation areas. I do not belong to the Nat. More toxic. And every member is in good standing for recommendation as long as the dues are paid. Termite guy came and sprayed Premise behind refrigerator inside the drywall. Any chance the flexible pvc pipes are chemical permiable? At this point, what should I do? I am a fan of chemicals so I am leanings towards Termidor. Since the bait tubes are about every 10 feet around the structure, it will take care of millions of termites. I am very excited to offer this product now. I have been treating termites since 1969. If they are not, the wood will grow fungus which repels the termites. BTW, orkin is suppose to use termidor treatment. Email:inspector@termiteguys.com.au, 2022 Termite Guys | Website Design by Excite Media, Specialised Pre-Purchase Termite Inspection. Regarding safety of Altriset EPA does not require any warning or caution labeling, which is quite rare. Cheaper companies are not always better, so read your contract before signing. More toxic. How long does the Termidor treatment last in the ground? It is classified as a reduced-risk formula and does not harm the environment, needs no safety equipment and poses no health risks to humans or pets. However, I personally like overkill if it makes it more likely to keep the little bastards out of my house. I have Sentricon on my personal home and would not change. Termites only build exploratory mud tubes when they cant find wood directly. I will say this- whoever you choose, make CERTAIN they have the ability to do both methods or you will be getting a VERY biased opinion. We are in the process of purchasing a new house that has been sitting on the market for 3 years. WebAltriset is also proven to last longer than other termiticides, sometimes as much as twice as long. All of this to ensure a continuous and even barrier enveloping the property. Has strong trophollaxis effect and is very effective. Testimonials. Termites work very slowly, so it doesnt really matter which type of treatment you go with (Sentricon or Termidor). Of all the baits, Sentricon is the only one where the manufacturer follows up to make sure the inspections are being done. domyownpestcontrol.com is a legit site, and their customer service is incredible. If you choose to do it go with All Safe , but make sure its checked at least bi-monthly. I have had a complete Termidor treatment, and they have done an interior dusting twice, including drilling in under my tub deck in the master and shooting the dust there. What a rip-off. It works, its green and the cost is very similar to a liquid treatment. With Advance, the materials are sold piece-meal. Does it seem reasonable to trust the research results for Altrisets effectiveness (which appear very good), given my concern with potential for pet or human exposure to Termidor? But this also means that if there is some sort of obstruction in the way, the technician will be well aware of this, and rectify the issue. I saw the termites last year and Im sure they will be back this year but rather wait around for them to come I will make the barrier around my house with the Termidor. Without having any other bids for Termidor, what should be a reasonable cost?? Had our house treated with Termidor 5 years ago. I found some evidence of old termite damage and in removing that wood found some live termites on a piece of wood that was contacting the ground. We called around a few pest companies the next day and were told that we had disturbed them too much. which is why I was at so many branches. I also need to determine if the rest of the pipes need to be ripped up prior to treating with Termidor. A national chain is going to have higher overhead because they pay a chunk to headquarters. The few extra dollars spent are well worth it. There were a lot of hurt feelings in the industry from those that did not get selected, therefore they badmouth Sentricon every chance they get. Also, what would the annual maintenance cost be? As far as a one or even a five year guarantee, both of those are a little short. Why wouldnt everyone just treat with Termidor, and forget about termites until another 10-15 years? This spring, in my territory alone which consists of 6 counties, I had 12 call backs on Sentricon and absolutely NO callbacks resulting in live termite activity. Altriset is cost-effective compared to Termidor but works almost the same way. Hey Vern, why do you even use liquids if the Sentricon is so effective? 1 - Spot treat termite activity with a liquid termite chemical - (See Above), 2 - Bait the termite colony with a termite baiting system. Folks, that is an unbelievable statement because you cant even drink a cup of coffee without risking potential side effects! Im still on the fence between Termidor vs. Sentricon but I feel more educated having read these comments. With a liquid, or a liquid plus bait, you can rest assured that termites will be eliminated from your home. Has strong trophollaxis effect and is very effective. Its that simple. I would give it another year and then make a move. I asked if they would treat upstairs too, but he said no that downstairs and outside would be enough. I am glad we spent the extra money our house has been termite free for 15 years. Educate yourself and get advice, from someone who used to have a termite problem or someone with a renewed in good standing licence, for your own peace of mind. We use it. We have been living in a house for 20 years that was built in 1955 on a concrete slab. If you go to the Sentricon website, you could probably find an authorized operator in your part of the country who could give you more localized information. Then Terminix did an inspection, they want to charge me 1,800 and they have only the option of Termidor, the guy saw a little whole, the size of the tip of a pen and he said that it was from active termites, then I found another company: All safe pest and termite, which is BBB accredited and is part of the National Pest Management Association They came to the house, we showed the technician the little whole and he said that it was not from active termites they charge $600 they use sentricon and spot treatment with termidor if they see any active termites, they also mentioned that they have infrared camaras to see if damaged has been created by termites, do these cameras really work? are all junk compared to Termidor. If I wait until termites are found which treatment ( above) is best. To Jim: see my question above regarding risk factors with application of Termidor. You guys who do every other month monitoring is crazy. Im not pro-anything. PCT and BASF present: Technical Training for Termidor Termiticides/Insecticides and Trelona ATBS Annual Bait Stations (October 2020), Wolfpack Pest Control: Termidor Termiticide Success Story. Sentricon and Termidor are both great products. When I worked at Terminix we used Sentricon for years until Dow fired Terminix. The key to any treatment is the warranty and the species of termite covered under the warranty. Im aware that those of you who push sentricon in your business have a vested interest in protecting its name Im just wondering, how can I know for sure what to do. You will hear different information on this subject depending upon what they have used or know about. Some warranties have a low limit on the damage covered. Authorized Sentricon Operators are not just selling a warranty. Sounds like a bad program to me. My question is that given that I have some kind of system installed, will the initial installation fee be reduced any by returning to the original pest company? At $1800.00 I would assume your home to be approximately 150 linear feet . You need to get over the fact that you are not an authorized Sentricon Dealer. If the termites know that this area offers food, theyll then start feeding on the bait station. Something is fishy about the pest guys claims. Since you dont have any experience with Sentricon, you have no idea of the control rates. Right now I am really frustrated and looking through numerous websites. Why? The Termidor products are produced by the German company BASF SE. Costa Mesa, CA 92627 You are welcome to your biased opinion as to how effective Sentricon is, however, my opinion, having worked with both products is that they are equally effective. I have been in the pest control buisiness for 23 years. It is open to anybody. with all that said really what is my best option? Is my wll water at risk? I have had Sentricon for 4 years, and have been thinking of going with another company that uses Termidor. That is why Ehrlich thinks the Sentricon system might be best. If a house needs 1 bait tube or 50 bait tubes, there is no incentive to scrimp (sp? Which is a good sign of a elderly lady and possibly a widow.I was sent to fix there screw-ups, and the tough retreats back in the dark days with Dursban and Pryfon 6 (junk). I used to have Terminix but decided not to renew since all they did was inspect. Turns out, it has just gotten more advanced since 2010. As far as you telling the public that Shatter, and Advance are the same product, Please use your head.that is a joke. It is water soluble, and less enduring in wet soils. One firms annual charge would be 10% of the original injection cost (around $190) and the other didnt specifiy because, originally, we had only gotten a quote for spot treatment and not treatment of the entire foundation. WebAltriset is non-repellent to the termites and also very safe for the environment, probably the safest of all currently available termiticides. These numbers are way off. Chemical is noviflumuron that is non-toxic. WebTermidor HE High-Efficiency Termiticide However challenging the job, Termidor HE termiticide cuts time and labor to make your work easier. The 4 gallons per ten feet is desirable, but 2 gallons per ten feet may be better in your case. Termidor SC is the Suspended Concentrate, which is a liquid concentrate. More efficient: Reduce time and labor at least 50% on every treatment. Ive just found out Termidor is banned in France as they think it is harmfull to the enviroment. As big fan of Termidor I have now seen 2 failures , both done by Terminix. The renewal inspection rate should probably be around $120 for Termidor or $285 for Sentricon. In four years I have spent a total of $1,750 on this Sentricon crap. Id think that there would be huge lawsuits if that were the case. Last week I found termites in our basement, it seems they entered around an old stoop that now has a deck built over the top of. 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