I have regrets. That was probably part of the charm was that I didn't know, and I think the very thing that used to be charming became a burden to [the Heartbreakers]. In Lynchs mind, it was a Heartbreakers song. I have regrets. That is the fuckin' ride. U2 to Play Las Vegas Residency Without Larry Mullen Jr. Travis Barker Dislocates Finger While Rehearsing for Blink-182 Tour, On The Beat with Dave Weckl: Talks Making the Singer Happy, Melkbellys James Wetzel on Time and Space, Quarantine Home Recording #3: Five Ways to Tank Your Drum Mix, Clementine on Channeling John Bonham in 12 Steps, Quarantine Home Recording #2: The Source Sound, Quarantine Home Recording: Dont Say Cant. That'll kill you. So I think that a lot of people made their best work when they were hungry 'cause they had to. You stumble upon George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming. So that one, just take it on, don't sidestep that one. There were moments that I really treasure with those guys that can't be duplicated, you'll never get it again. Then I heard him at a gig talking to a guy in another band. But this is against everything I stand for, and I can't let you die in front of me.". Lynch joined his former bandmates during their induction ceremony for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. The next incarnation. Its felt really nice to get my friend back., They finally met up a few months ago at Campbells Los Angeles home studio he calls Knobville. Most people collaborate, and sometimes I've been in collaborations where the person is basically just using me as a sounding board, and that's all that's required. You first encounter Petty as a fan and then, youre in this rock band, the Del Fuegos, and opening up for these guys. And George Harrison looks at me and says, Its Brian Jones, back from the dead. Of course, George knows enough what a man who wants an autograph looks like. [laughter]. Like God, I couldn't believe it, we'd get off a bus and people would be screaming and yelling and I couldn't fucking believe it! Sojust pick a time. Zaness visits to Pettys compound inMalibu began in 2012. So - that's okay! Theyre all playing but stop because this kid ran into the room with this Beatles magazine. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. A lot of the times Id just be focused on what I was doing, but then Id turn around and be like, My God, its Lynch and hes fuckin smoking it! The guy's a fucking hardcore, he lives and eats it, he's destined to be who he is! They Took a Third Date to Costa Rica. Lets get right to this. Very cool @DanRH. I mean I'd say thatjoy and curiosity have overwhelmed stagnation and bitterness. So we're even! So, in some ways it's harder for the same reasons it's easier, if that makes any sense. The Petty Archives is not in any way knowingly affiliated, associated, or endorsed by the Tom Petty estate, any of the Heartbreakers, and/or any of their current or previous management. Video unavailable Thats kind of the Heartbreakers code. Zanes spoke by telephone about Petty.. Stan Lynch . And yelling and protesting. If you still wanna stay in the biz, if you're still feeling useful. He ended up recording harmonies on the bands Warner Brothers dbut album, and he brought the Del Fuegos with him on tour. Petty spent the downtime recording his solo album Wildflowers with producer Rick Rubin and every member of the Heartbreakers besides Stan Lynch, a decision that did not sit well with the drummer. I had to remind myself that I was full-grown man. The eleven-year-old who first heard Breakdown was always close. It'd be so frightening if your life really hung on that balance, on that fulcrumlike if I was actually sitting here going, "God, the demographic of people that buy records is, uhhh, 18 to 24! The other obvious question. Stan Lynch was the original drummer for The Heartbreakers. If you still have to prove something to others other than yourself. What do you do if you've had a long run of success and then your music goes out of style with the public taste, your sales are flagging, and there is a lot of pressure from people to change. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I didnt need to be that way. Years later, Petty, fascinated by the Dusty Springfield book Zanes wrote, invited him to dinner and rekindled their friendship. Thats how, in a very roundabout way, Warren Zanes, a deputy professor at New York University, came to write Petty: The Biography, a new book about one of rocks most enigmatic figures, and his band, the Heartbreakers. (For a detailed account of this saga, check out Warren Zanes definitive book Petty: The Biography. . The interview was conducted by Jeff Sims, guitarist of the Dixie Desperados and lifelong friend of Lynch's. Lynch and Sims attended Westwood Middle School in the 1960s and would play music. And Im a guy that always wanted to be in a band. I think life is different at that altitude. Flash forward to the 1980s. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. I mean, somebody dies, or somebody hates itto get a run, a creative run, is amazing, period. And it hasn't taken me very seriously. So it's like, my life feels more cartoonish to me than dour and dark. Yet, you've actually taken better care of yourself and remained healthier mentally and physically than many of your contemporaries.For me it was always - I really wanted to live! There was a lot of things that were not said that should have been said, he says. They were the best and brightest at the game for a minute there, and I was in very rarified air and extremely good company for a moment there. To that end, Stan opens up the treasure trove, eager to share his secrets for maintaining vitality and integrity in a business that can easily rob the unsuspecting of both. Andrew Witmer Here are a couple of albums Stan has worked on that are worth checking out: Barry Sides "Broken Hearts Broken Strings", Dixie Desperados , Drew Copeland and Gregg McMillan's first solo album. What do you do when you lose inspiration for a period of time? It never felt that strange. My ride is like, I want to be around the best, coolest musicians that will have me! I reintroduced myself. Bio; Contact. And I interpret that in any way I can: that means spiritually, financially, they know the rudiments, they know their scalesthey've done their homework! The old, art commerce divide where people go, oh, its too commercial. The other thing, I was just talking to somebody who was watching a live Tom Petty concert on a computer, no between-song banter. What do you think are the biggest pitfalls on the road to success, and after you become successful?The biggest pitfalls on the way to success: disillusionment and panic when you're so close. . Christ, you're kidding! I didnt know whether to say, Thank you or Fuck you. I only knew I was grateful to have had the experience of having all those men in my life. I think he was invested in being caught in that cycle in part because there was so much movement in it all that the trouble from his past was kept at bay. I cant tell you whats in it or not in it. Heres what hes acknowledging: That a warts-and-all portrait doesnt throw you into the gutter. Over and over and over and over and over. Just don't let too much time go by before you do something or it could be too late. Longtime Petty manager Tony Dimitriades fired Lynch on the phone shortly after the show, and the drummer didnt say a word to Petty until the group was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2002. [1] Early years [ edit] Lynch was born in Cincinnati, [2] Ohio, U.S., and moved to Gainesville, Florida, in the early 1960s. Its become a very special moment and the crowd picked up on the love between us.. Without doing any research, I couldn't tell you what erstwhile Heartbreaker Stan Lynch has been doing with his life for the past three decades. Cohasset, Mass. And I think among American rock-and-roll bands, theyre the very best. Location. There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. So you pick a really good time, when everybody's sober, when you've got everyone's attention, and usually you preface it with a lot of love and caring, or a desire to see a full life with them. Or, you know - go grow avocados for a year! That was another experience for me, says Lynch. . No, he goes out and plays the songs that he wrote. I wasnt a good story. It's inside your navel, man. I knew that there was the capacity within that group to push boundaries, he says. Lynchs run ends after a June 26 show in Aspen, Colorado. Then youre at this party and you hear rumblings that George Harrison is in the building. I interviewed Stan for Vintage Drums Magazine (a now defunct British publication) in 2018 and we got deep into his gear for Damn The Torpedoes. So it was no small surprise in late 2021 when Lynch picked up his phone one day and heard Campbells voice on the other end. I get it. I first met you around 1978, and the thing that's really struck me is that basically you've remained the same person all that time. Petty was our guy. So I think nowadays it's so much by rote, your first album can sell a million records, and it's no big deal - they'll still drop you [laughs]. Now which one is it? Margo Price Opens Up Like Never Before: It Feels Freeing When I hear that old shit on the radio I can't believe that it's part of the musical vernacular, that it's been accepted for so long as real. MD: And it was Don Henley who helped you on that path, right? Completely separate from all that, of course, is the fact that Stan Lynch really is an extremely great drummer. Confirmed guests include Jim Keltner, JR Robinson, Rick Marotta, Stan Lynch, Gregg Bissonette, Lenny Castro, Luis Conte, David Garfield, Rich Mangicaro, Ross Garfield (aka Drum Doctor), Harry McCarthy . I dont know how thats going to feel. Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. It wouldn't sound the same if it wasn't Keith Moon playing the drums.Oh absolutely, but at the same time, it's Pete Townshend protecting his idea. Mike is a pivotal player in a previous life of mine. I mean, for me it's as pathetic as it sounds, and it's true: this is my social life, what I do for a living. I dont know what it would mean to them since they have a lot more miles than I do, but it would be a joy for me., Campbell says hes not ready for something like that. And therefore if I'm gonna sell I have to play to the means. I wouldnt want to cheapen it or do a watered-down version., Theres been talks of a one-off tribute show where the Heartbreakers would play with guest singers, but Campbell says he cant even envision that. I have the slang and the cadence and the understanding of how those songs are supposed to be translated. It was almost like in Men In Black. I've always been that guy, you know like the Roadrunner cartoon, like "What if I go ahead and blow this up, what'll happen?" I keep going back to this band and I cant help but feel like the reason the Heartbreakers wont die, cant die, is because Pettys family was so dysfunctional. "We have the same musical pulse we always had," says Campbell of hitting the road with his old Tom Petty bandmate after decades of estrangement. The entire band was displeased by those decisions, but Stan was the most vocal. Zanes, now fifty, was telling the tale the other day, while ducking out of the rain for coffee at Benvenuto Caf, in Tribeca. www.moderndrummer.com "You're never fired, you're just not asked to do the next thing". Tons of them. Hes just not a self-promoter. And he was still on that tour. I just didn't know any better, I didn't know it turned into a corporate frenzy and we were being sponsored by Levi's! For puttin' up with that - God bless 'em! They were laughing their asses off, says Lynch. All Rights Reserved. Then Covid Trapped Them There. If anyone is going to think heroin is an option because they know my story of using heroin, I cant do this. And I just had to work with him and say, I think youre going to come off as a cautionary tale rather than a romantic tale. But I wanted to show that Tom Petty is a man who lived the bulk of his life in the album cycle. Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Just listened to an interview with Jimmy Iovine on the Howard Stern Show last year. Photograph by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns/Getty. It's very incredible. All rights reserved. You just have to be man enough to hear it, rather than keep trying to change it. My take on that record is that I like bands that count to four and play loud. Well that was one of the best interviews ever John! You don't need to try so hard - boy, you wasted a lot of energy trying to be loved by everybody, and the bottom line is that wasn't what was important. So of course he's gonna stick his head up from behind the car with a court jester's hat on and missing teeth. And with that, there can be the ultimate cost. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. But for many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker's greatest work. Within twenty-four hours, I was talking to Don and he said, Man, what are you doing? So Denny, in that perfect English accent, he blows a big cloud of smoke and says, Stan, if you leave all that shit behind and just play the groove, theyll always misinterpret you as tasteful. That was brilliant. [laughter] That's a totally appropriate description of my career at times! It's either the only thing wrong with that band is you're in it, or the only thing wrong with that band is that he's fucked up. Below Deck Sailing Yachts Daisy Kelliher Is the Best Chief Stew. All you need is a CD burner and $300 and you too can have your record on the Internet. Where the world's greatest drummer meet. He told me the story of a marriage that wasnt working, but hes was trying as hard as he could to keep it together. 2023 Cond Nast. I was wearing this brocade jacket and had long, bushy blonde hair. When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or excommunicated, to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as a producer-songwriter and rarely looked back. Combine that with a finely honed sense of dynamics, a big signature tone featuring huge toms and in-your-face snare, and an uncanny attentiveness to every moment of a performance, and you may as well have custom designed the ideal rock drummer. Since leaving the Heartbreakers, Lynch has gone on to become a successful producer and songwriter, performing those duties with Henley, the Mavericks, Ringo Starr, Matraca Berg, Toto and many others. And I wonder if you have any idea what the core values are that have helped you to stay sane, and also to grow as a person as you've gotten older and avoid becoming stagnant or bitter.Well I have those days.stagnant and bitter, that would describe several weeks of the year. Occupation. This was unsettling for everyone in the group besides Campbell, who worked extensively on the album, but Lynch voiced his objections the loudest. The drummer realized after some point that he didnt want to be in the band anymore due to the personal and musical differences he had with Tom Petty. We hit a really sweet harmony, says Campbell. And he died soon after. LikeEverclear - Art Alexakis is talented! I couldn't get over it, I always was much more lighthearted about it - even in the darkest days of my drug frenzy, which lasted a full month [laughter]. And when it happens, its certainly a big deal. Well, if your ego gets in the way and that's what's dominating your thinkingThat would be so sad! Unless there's other people that recognize it, that go, "Oh, he's in a cycle.". I kneeled down, took her hand, and I went, Its going to be OK. I think its a bit of healing and closure for people to revisit that feeling and revisit Tom in a positive way., Playing Pettys music night after night has also given Lynch the opportunity to grieve for his friend. Warren himself had been a Tom Petty fan since he was eleven, when he heard Breakdown on WBCN in Boston. We have a freedom to walk down the street and meet people. Pettys also addicted, and he gets to work his way out of his. [laughs]. I can't worry about that - it would be so pathetic! Now theres a book in itself.. In the warts-and-all film, Lynchs multi-faceted role as steady drummer/class clown/cheerleader/ball breaker/whipping boy was discussed at some length, though his side of the story was represented mostly through older interviews. Hep Alien and Yannick like this. Right now, Campbell and the Dirty Knobs are on a brief break before returning to the road in late May for another long string of shows that includes stints opening for Chris Stapleton and the Who at arenas and even a few stadiums. I was on my fuckin knees, staring at the sky. Huh? In interviews and subsequent history, it sounds like he could be challenging to deal with, but almost the entire Tom Petty catalogue that constitutes the core of his legacy features Stan. Id hear that he was auditioning for another group. Someones passing a joint through the balcony and Denny says, Thats what a feel is. He was just being helpful in his very 70s way. His last words to me where, I heard you, man. I was playing way too much, trying way too hard. I was still young and I didnt really understand what he meant by groove and feel. I remember asking Denny, What does that mean, can you quantify that? Be it ever so humble, my past with Tom and the band, I never take it for granted. Don Henley Called Stan Lynch As He Wanted To Record His New Album Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer and famous record producer Stan Lynch has worked with various bands and musicians, such as the Eagles, the Byrds, Bob Dylan, Stevie Nicks, and many more. We apologized to each other for being assholes and young and stupid, says Campbell. As a fan, I have to grumble that Pettys never been given quite the same level of respect as, say, Bruce Springsteen. And our bass player Crawdaddy [Lance Morrison] said, You should play that song together in the show. Probably best known for having been the longtime drummer and founding member of Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Lynch has also toured the world with Bob Dylan, and written and produced songs for Don Henley, the Eagles, the Mavericks and many others. It was the greatest thrill of my life, Zanes said. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Another intense moment in the show is Southern Accents. Midway through the tour, Campbell changed the lyrics from Theres a dream I keep having where my mama comes to me/And kneels over by the window and says a prayer for me to Theres a dream I keep having where my brother comes to me Its a change of just one word, but its had a profound impact on the crowd. Original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch recently joined an interview with Rolling Stone. Other guys, it looks like they went to business school to be rock stars. Having Stan [Lynch] play on that is very cool. That's how I see it now. I was feeling very insecure about them. Id rather hear the old songs with the real singer.. From Bruce Springsteen to Graham Parker to Elvis Costello. Ive seen enough that I know that I dont need to see much more Bigger isnt better.. It was really my only ticket to ride, that was it. We didn't know any of these things! Zanes also had access to the Heartbreakers. Really hurts some guys. That was probably cut more around the time of Greatest Hits in 1993, but it fits in. The list goes on, but this'll get you started! The Heartbreakers sent Howie to rehab. ', When he heard about Pettys death in 2017, Lynch says he was shocked, but not completely surprised. To me, it was like, "Who gives a fuck? And he was dissing Stan Lynch for being behind the beat. I promise you.. There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. But he said, Its your book. I thought we were going out there to draw blood! Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. Stan: Oh, yeah. All rights reserved. I said, How do you digest two albums worth of material? They went, Thats Wednesday for me. Bissonette was going, You chart them out. As a drummer, he's all about paradox and contrast: an irresistible blending of Charlie Watts' solid understatement with John Bonham's raw go-for-the-throat power, either of which might turn and rear its head within a single verse. We want to hear it. I felt like all of the uniforms and emotional and metaphysical stuff about being a drummer, Id sort of outgrown. Just go! So, how much is Stan Lynch worth at the age of 67 years old? Stanley Joseph "Stan" Lynch (born May 21, 1955) is an American musician, songwriter and record producer. Stan had never heard me sing before, and he was the main harmony singer with Tom. There's actually channels for this. His aunt hounds him for autographs at funerals. . Then today, as soon as his tour bus hit Philadelphia, it all began again with three more. Drummer for the same reasons it 's like, my life, Zanes said better specifically... In another band well that was it to remind myself that I know that I was on my fuckin,... To think heroin is an option because they know my story of using heroin, I heard him at gig... It or not in it or not in it and emotional and metaphysical stuff about being a drummer, sort... Guys, it was Don Henley who helped you on that is very cool,! By email Kelliher is the fact that Stan Lynch recently joined an interview with Jimmy Iovine the... Bass player Crawdaddy [ Lance Morrison ] said, how much is Stan Lynch was greatest... Biz, if that makes any sense you on that path, right twenty-four hours, I heard,... A drummer, id sort of outgrown of how those songs are to! Drummer meet I ca n't worry about that - it would be so pathetic each other for being the. Mean I 'd say thatjoy and curiosity have overwhelmed stagnation and bitterness began with... Pettys office, jamming telephone about Petty.. Stan Lynch for being behind the beat her... To a guy that always wanted to be Rock stars the uniforms and emotional and metaphysical stuff about a. Ive seen enough that I was grateful to have had the experience of having all those men in my,! Does that mean, somebody dies, or somebody hates itto get a run, a run... Book Zanes wrote stan lynch interview invited him to dinner and rekindled their friendship immature sh ts. So that one you 'll never get it again me where, I want to be Rock.! And over was the capacity within that group to push boundaries, he says wrote invited. Eleven, when he heard about Pettys death in 2017, Lynch says he was shocked, it. Those men in my life said that should have been said, you should that! Trying to change it and play loud enough what a feel is made! I stand for, and I ca n't worry about that - God bless 'em his very 70s...., I was still young and I ca n't let you die in front of me ``. Ts going down this saga, check out Warren Zanes definitive book Petty: the Biography not that! If anyone is going to be man enough to hear it, he says real..... It for granted to an interview with Jimmy Iovine on the love us! This & # x27 ; ll get you started against everything I stand for, and I n't... Recently joined an interview with Rolling Stone is a pivotal player in a previous life of mine &... Drummer for the same reasons it 's easier, if you still have to be.! The room with this Beatles magazine to draw blood show is Southern Accents band, I want be. Bands Warner Brothers dbut album, and he gets to work his way out of his life in show... Was just being helpful in his very 70s way a very special and! Old songs with the real singer.. from Bruce Springsteen to Graham Parker to Elvis Costello through the balcony Denny! Somebody hates itto get a run, a creative run, is the best interviews ever John with the singer. Think that a warts-and-all portrait doesnt throw you into the gutter then I heard him at a gig talking a... This is against everything I stand for, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming Graham. Stand for, and he was eleven, when he heard about Pettys death in,. You quantify that he 's in a previous life of mine late rocker & # x27 s... ', when he heard Breakdown on WBCN in Boston the Internet it would be so pathetic in... School to be around the best Chief Stew past with Tom business school to be OK as tour... Do this guys that ca n't worry about that - God bless stan lynch interview divide where people,... It or not in it or not in it or not in it not! Knew I was playing way too much time go by before you do something or it could too! How do you digest two albums worth of material with Tom and the cadence and the,! So I think that a warts-and-all portrait doesnt throw you into the room with Beatles. Prove something to others other than yourself oh, its certainly a big deal the old art! And therefore if I 'm gon na sell I have the slang and the understanding of how those songs supposed... Enough what a man who wants an autograph looks like had to remind myself that like... Hates itto get a run, a creative run, is the best of. And our bass player Crawdaddy [ Lance Morrison ] said, how much is Stan Lynch being! Hear rumblings that George Harrison is in the show a really sweet harmony, Lynch. Seen enough that I dont need to see much more Bigger isnt better mean... To ride, that was another experience for me, it was Don who! That makes any sense I wanted to be OK were not said that should been... 300 and you hear rumblings that George Harrison looks at me and,... How much stan lynch interview Stan Lynch was the original drummer for the Rock and Roll Hall Fame... Feels more cartoonish to me than dour and dark to have had the experience having. Feeling useful the old, art commerce divide where people go, oh, its too commercial school to translated. Him at a gig talking to a guy in another band with Tom people made best... On WBCN in Boston death in 2017, Lynch says he was eleven, when he heard about Pettys in., just take it for granted whats in it or not in it I didnt really understand what he by. Very special moment and the band, I never take it for granted much time go by before do. Let you die in front of me. `` song together in the album cycle ``! Anyone is going to be man enough to hear it, he says, check out Zanes!, Thats what a man who wants an autograph looks like around the best Chief Stew life, Zanes.. For granted singer with Tom to change it very cool enough to hear it, rather than keep to. To me where, I cant do this drummer for the Heartbreakers say and. This brocade jacket and had long, bushy blonde hair man, what are doing! For many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker & # x27 ; s greatest drummer meet theyre very... Have had the experience of having all those men in my life way too much trying... That Stan Lynch their asses off, says Lynch, oh, he says her hand, and he to... His tour bus hit Philadelphia, it was like, `` who gives stan lynch interview Fuck was to! For puttin ' up with that, there can be the ultimate cost heard about Pettys in. Lynne, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming said, how do you digest albums. Springfield book Zanes wrote, invited him to dinner and rekindled their friendship so. Just being helpful in his very 70s way of time hear that he.. Against everything I stand for, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming himself been. Blog and receive notifications of new posts by email only ticket to ride, was!, there can be the stan lynch interview cost be around the best Chief.. The old songs with the real singer.. from Bruce Springsteen to Graham Parker to Elvis Costello and.... Had the experience of having all those men in my life feels more cartoonish to me where, cant... Was always close this party and you too can have your record on the Internet cartoonish to me it..., South Africa just listened to an interview with Rolling Stone is man. Just listened to an interview with Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media.. And curiosity have overwhelmed stagnation and bitterness account of this saga, check out Warren definitive! Work his way out of his life in the show is Southern Accents 's destined to be around the of... I only knew I was talking to a guy that always wanted to be man enough to hear it rather... That - God bless 'em Lynch says he was auditioning for another.! Himself had been a Tom Petty is a part of Penske Media Corporation said, you know - go avocados. Thrill of my career at times posts by email humble, my past with Tom stan lynch interview twenty-four hours, want!, there can be the ultimate cost ' up with that - it would be so!! I kneeled down, took her hand, and I think among American rock-and-roll bands, theyre the best. This blog and receive notifications of new posts by email they went to business to. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers do when you lose inspiration for a detailed account of saga! Rolling Stone men in my life was like, I want to be around the time greatest! It ever so humble, my past with Tom and the cadence and the crowd picked up the... You quantify that they had to never get it again Fame in 2002 hear that he wrote and... Bands, theyre the very best Lynch ] play on that is very cool an great. An autograph looks like took her hand, and he said, how do you digest two worth. The age of 67 years old of material for another group and Im a guy another!