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During the heyday of the reproductions, there was a great deal more sharing of parts among the Italian manufacturers than was ever suspected. Applies primarily to guns made outside the U.S. Information courtesy of The Blue Book of Gun Values by S.P. The previous owner kept it in a display in his gun room. +J+J+J+J4+J4+Ji4F`4F`4fCg~1x:4lCC6a` ? ? Get this product now as it would not last. Starting price $549. As a result, we have a group of markings appearing on replica revolvers that have taken a long time to be identified because of the special conditions in the market at that time. 0000016002 00000 n
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Thanks for your help. "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over E.M.F. From left to right (upside down) are the test house and black powder proof house stampings, followed by a boxed BM, denoting a . Proof marks are the official stamps or ciphers showing that a barrel has been properly tested with the prescribed excess charges of powder and ball that allow a large factor of safety to the user. The brass frame makes it a Confederate. We have provided you that we have found on this subject. This rifle is equipped with an elevation and windage adjustable Creedmoor rear sight and spirit-level tunnel front sight with windage adjustment micrometer screw. The major manufacturers could not meet the demand and American distributors wanted more of and different models of what were being produced. 1945 = 1. List of 294 Italian gun makers, Italy suppliers and sellers and distributors Home > Companies Gun & weapons dealers from Italy category Firearms/ Small arms 47 Ammunition 3 Ammunition Components/Reloading 1 Shooting accessories/Guns storage/Training 4 Gun Care 1 Gun Parts 2 Machinery/Manufacture 1 Operational equipment/ Survival gear 3 Airguns 5 I wonder what the odds of a real Walker turning up in Switzerland are? 0000007663 00000 n
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December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire, Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date), This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm, http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/Italian_Proof_Date_Codes_1945_-_2030.pdf. The two upper case letters or roman numerals in a box is the code for the year the firearm was proofed. Some proved pieces exist, and are marked in the case of revolvers with the letters U.S., in the case of other arms with the letters V.P. If it is a fake it's more likely any of the Italian proof marks and makers stamps were carefully filed off or filled then filed. The gun is a good shooter but the hammer comes down solid on the nipples, enough that the hammer isn't fully down. In my own web search for the most recent date code chart, I came across this one: What is the date for CT code? Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to startxref
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Armourers marks are quite distinct from proof-marks, and comprise the private marks, ciphers, stamps, or signatures of the individual armourers or gunsmiths. The Gibbs Deluxe Target Rifle features an octagon-to-round blued steel barrel, checkered and oil finished walnut stock with pistol grip, and premium wood butt plate and nose cap. reference books that display proof marks and their meanings. 0000001196 00000 n
Their proof marks are two feathers, or curved branches, crossed with letters in the angles of the cross so formed. source of Manufacturer Serial Numbers. These marks have all the characteristic appearance of a rectangle, with a small blob at the top rather like a tied up sack of corn. Quick View Add to Cart . There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. And with these symbols and date codes, we can usually track down who actually made the firearm. 0000003452 00000 n
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SOLD FOR: $1175. Crown CP (final black powder proof for the smooth bored muzzle loader barrels. Many Italian made reproduction cap and ball firearms retail used in the $40 to $150 range. There is no doubt that this system contributed much to the good report in which properly proved arms were held, and laid the foundation of much export trade. EMF Company, Inc. 1900 East Warner Ave. Black Powder only Cal. Action Type: Percussion Black Powder Revolver. 1992 = BB. 0000008871 00000 n
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Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030 By Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire Start new topic Posted December 20, 2013 Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date) This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm 0000006823 00000 n
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All that tells is that it was made in Italy in 1976. 1945 = 1. 1948 = 4. Saillevillean E. reversed set in a square stamp (as shown below). 1946 = 2. Single Action Presenta. It is possible that these shops did not have an Italian firearms manufacturers license and could not sell their products direct, so they were sold through other manufacturers who had a license. 0000009592 00000 n
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Thanks for finding it for me. Further changes were initiated, when smokeless powder necessitated more stringent conditions of proof. The cylinder is marked with the Gardone and black powder proof marks and displays a reproduction of the 1843 Navel battle scene typically found on Colt C1860 Army revolvers. August 19, 2012, 10:13 AM #8: MogrenE. JavaScript is disabled. firearms. 0000001989 00000 n
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They are built with state-of-the-art materials, so you can enjoy safe and reliable performance with modern ammunition. Birmingham did not establish its proof houses until 1813, and though another Act was passed in 1815 to strengthen the former, the laws were not stringent enough, and the Birmingham proof was not recognized as sound until much later, when the Act of 1855, still unsatisfactory, and the eventually satisfactory one of 1868, was passed. Very unusual underhammer as the cocking knob is a better design so you can grasp it easier and. These Didn't find what you were looking for? View Models. 0000039439 00000 n
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Uberti cartridge revolvers are true replicas of original historical designs. Italy started rather late with proofmarks, they started on december 30:th 1923 with a proof that was compulsory. As for value comes with box and back powder flask. It is not clear to me when firearms by Italian manufacturers other than Beretta began to be marked with date codes - it may have been as late as 1954, with the Roman numeral X. Update: (This was originally posted in 2006.) 0000141211 00000 n
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Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. Underneath the whole appears the word St. Etienne. It has the standard Italian proof marks and date code (AD). Copyright 2017 and beyond. 0000007161 00000 n
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After years of looking at and trying determination. Does anyone know where I could find the codes? Inspectors WWII German Codes & Markings GUN MARKINGS Please enter the markings you want to research and click the submit button. I'd bet that CE was skipped as well (as are all "G" combos). Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. 0000003320 00000 n
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this location now so you can return often. So, what follows is a photo library of many of the various Black Powder Proofmarks, Date Codes, Importer, Distributor and Manufacturer's Marks to help with identifying the manufacturer of your revolvers, pistols or rifles. These include the Thanks for posting those codesI use them quite often to make sure the correct parts are ordered. Tullea three spiked crown or mitre above a capital E (as shown below). 35 0 obj
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It may not display this or other websites correctly. Again, thank you For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Post request for quotation and get multiple offers from manufacturers. There are the RRRs, the *PN and * Gardone proof marks and an AB date code. Re: italian made .44 black powder revolver That's essentially a copy of a copy. r2 e< 1{Vk)} The majority of marks will be found on the barrel flats, though early guns may have stamps on the tubes, under the forend. Remington New Army 1858 as copied by the Confederate Army during the Civil War. I pray for all on the wire and all that I shoot with.After this last fight with cancer that my wife and GOD and all of you that prayed for her.Things change your outlook some. 1967 = XXIII. 0000117775 00000 n
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CF - 2010. JavaScript is disabled. I would be grateful to any lover of arms who possesses authentic dated weapons, or has catalogued a private collection, if he would send to me, in care of my publishers, any such information which will add to the mass of fact available. I think it is a new Army 1858 but the Navy Arms on the top of barrel confuses me. The barrel pictured is a perfect example as it bears all of the Italian proof marks described.
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